Summoning
  • This guide was not written by me. It was written by Tamethebea and was posted on the the Supreme Skilllers Forums. I thought this maybe useful with alot of thought in this guide! image/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

    ~~~ Contents ~~~

    (NOTE: Press ctrl + f and then type in the section. e.g. 1.4 to go to that section!)
    1.0 - Introduction
    1.1 - Charm droppers
    1.2 - Starting summoning
    1.3 - Recommended items
    1.4 - General Costs
    1.5 - should I make scrolls?
    1.6 - What to do with your pouches?
    1.7 - Calculating charm efficiency
    2.0 - FAQ's


    1.0 - Introduction
    =====================

    Hello and welcome to my second guide on summoning. I have recently added part 2 familiars for the guide (sorry it took so long). During this guide i will explain the four different types of charms and their uses. I will also add some tips that i picked up during my summoning journey to and beyond level 99.


    1.1 -Charm Droppers
    ===================

    Gold
    -----

    Fire giants
    Hellhounds
    Infernal Mages
    Rock Crabs


    Crimson
    -----
    Dust devil
    Greater demons
    Nechryael
    Rock Lobsters (in 2's)
    Waterfiends

    Green
    -----
    Basilisks
    Bloodveld

    Blue
    -----
    Kalphites
    Most Dragons
    Gargoyle
    Wallsalki

    1.2 - Starting summoning
    =========================
    To start the new skill summoning you must complete a small quest by speaking to Pikkupstix in a house in Taverley. This quest has no requirements apart from two wolf bones that are used during it. The quest is called "Wolf Whistle" and should not take longer then 15 minutes to complete! Congratz on level 4 summoning when you have finished this quest! As a reward you will receive 275 gold charms that can be used to summon different creatures.


    1.3 Recommended items
    ====================
    Before you read ahead and start planning on getting level 99 summoning there are a few items that I suggest you invest in! Firstly whilst you are still in Taverley right click on Pikkupstix and you can purchase some items that are needed to make pouches. You need one pouch per familiar that you plan to summon and a large amount of spirit shards, dependant on which familiar so don’t just click buy 100k because they cost 25 each and you will be unable to get your money back. In section 2 of this guide I will explain how many spirit shards you need to make certain items. Apart from getting those necessary items I suggest that you move your player owned house to Taverley (shown in figure A) after moving your house to Taverley you can easier to the fastest trips. Next I recommend plenty of glory's or Duel rings. These will give you a fast teleport out of the obelisk. You might also want to drink some super energy potions in between trips.

    Figure A

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    At level 57 you can wave bye bye to taverly obelisk. Buy some spirit kyatt pouches from the grand exchange or make some if you wish to. A few duel rings will also be an advantage,as well as your weight loss gear. You may or may not need super energy potions depending on the weight of the secondary ingrediants. The images below show how you should use your spirit kyatt. Please look at all four.

    Kyatt 1
    Kyatt 2
    Kyatt 3
    Kyatt 4

    1.4 General costs
    =================
    Before I start telling you what to do for each level I want you to understand the costs. NOTE: THESE COSTS ARE THE COSTS FOR MAKING!!! You can sell alch or summon your pouches to make some of this back.

    Levels 4 - 16 = 266 Dreadfowl pouches = 266 Raw chickens (buy from canafis or GE) and 2128 shards. Trade in with the orge by yanille and get 1490 shards back. Shard cost = 15,960gp
    Levels 16 - 19 = 57 Granite crabs = 57 iron ore and 399 spirit shards. Trade in with the orge by yanille and get 280 shards back. Shard cost = 2,975gp
    Levels 19 - 32 = 151 Spirit Scorpions = 151 bronze claws and 8705 spirit shards. Trade in with the orge by yanille and get 6,094 shards back. Shard cost = 65,275gp
    Levels 32 - 46 = 366 Honey Badgers = 366 Honeycombs and 30,744 spirit shards. Trade in with the orge by yanille and get 21,521 shards back. Shard cost = 230,575gp
    Levels 46 - 49 = 118 Pyrelords = 118 tinderboxes and 13,098 spirit shards. Trade in with the orge by yanille and get 9,169 shards back. Shard cost = 98,235gp
    Levels 49 - 64 = 1466 beef and 171,522 spirit shards. Trade in with the orge by yanille and get 120,066 shards back. Shard cost = 1,286,425gp
    Levels 64 - 74 = 2,448 Stranger Plants = 2,448 bagged plants and 313,344 shards. Trade in with the orge by yanille and get 219,341 shards back. Shard cost = 2,350,080 gp
    Levels 74 - 85 = 6,642 Granite Lobsters = 6,642 granite (500g) and 1,102,572 shards. Trade in with the orge by yanille and get 771,800 shards back. Shard cost = 8,269,290 gp
    Levels 85 - 92 = 8,746 swamp titans = 8,746 Swamp lizards and 1,311,900 shards. Trade in with the orge by yanille and get 918,330 shards back. Shard cost = 9,839,250 gp
    Levels 92 - 95 = 5,569 Wolpertinges = 5,569 wolf bones, 5,569 raw rabbits and 1,130,507 shards. Trade in with the orge by yanille and get 791,354 shards back. Shard cost = 8,478,802gp
    Levels 95 - 96 = 2,187 Iron Titans = 2,187 iron platebody's and 433,026 shards. Trade in with the orge by yanille and get 303,119 shards back. Shard cost = 3,247,700gp
    Levels 96 - 99 = 7,931 Pack yaks = 7,931 yak hides and 1,673,441 shards. Trade in with the orge by yanille and get 12,550,807gp


    1.5 Should I make scrolls?
    ==========================

    My answer to this is 10O% NO! ONLY MAKE ENOUGH SCROLLS TO WHAT YOU WILL USE!!! If you make scrolls to 99 you lose around 200m!!!

    1.6 What should I do with my pouches?
    =====================================


    Sell them to the ogre at the summoning obelisk and get 70% of the shards used back

    1.7 Calculating Charm efficiency
    ==============================

    The goal of this section is to explain the difference in cost per item/charm to hopefully help you decide what items to make. The example here is a level 70 summoner aiming for level 75. Obviously it will not be feasible to expect them to do one type of charm. However the gap in costs differs as your level increases.

    1) 3,967 Bunyip = 436,370 shards, 1 green charm and 3,967 raw sharks

    (raw shark 1,096 each)
    1,096 * 3,967 = 4,347,832 gp

    436370 * 0.7 => 305459
    436370 - 305459 => 130911
    130911 * 25 => 3272775
    4347832 + 3272775 => 7620607

    I will get 305,459 shards back and have an estimated loss of 7,620,607 gp

    7620607 / 472794 => 16.1182396561716

    16.11 gp loss per pouch, selling to the ogre for 70% of the shards back, buying raw sharks middle in GE and shards 25 gp each.

    2) 3,901 Fruit Bats = 507,130 shards, 1 green charm and 3,901 bananas


    (Bananas 86 gp each)
    86 * 3901 => 335,486 gp

    507130 * 0.7 => 354991
    507130 - 354991 => 152139
    152139 * 25 => 3803475
    335486 + 3803475 => 4,138,961

    I will get 354,991 shards back and have an estimated loss of 4,138,961 gp

    4138961 / 472794 => 8.75425872578755

    8.75gp loss per pouch, selling to the ogre for 70% of the shards back, buying bananas for middle price in GE and shards 25 gp each



    3) 5,435 Barker Toads = 5,435 swamp toads, 1 gold charm and 59,785 shards.

    (Buying swamp toads 468 gp each)
    468 * 5435 => 2,543,580 gp

    59785 * 0.7 => 41849.5
    59785 - 41849.5 => 17935.5
    17935.5 * 25 => 448387.5
    2543580 + 448387.5 => 2991967.5

    I will get 41,850 shards back and have an estimated cost of 2,991,968

    2991968 / 472794 => 6.32826981729887

    6.33gp loss per pouch, selling to the ogre for 70% of the shards back, buying bananas for the middle price in GE and shards for 25 gp each.



    4) 815 Mithril Minotaur = 815 mithril bars, 815 blue charms and 123,880 shards

    (Buying mithil bars middle in GE)

    1177 * 815 => 959,255 gp

    123880 * 0.7 => 86716
    123880 * 0.3 => 37164
    37164 * 25 => 929100
    959255 + 929100 => 1,888,355

    I will get 86,716 shards black and have an estimated cost of 1,888,355 gp

    1888355 / 472794 => 3.99403334221669

    4.00 gp loss per pouch, selling to the ogre for 70% of the shards back, buying mithril bars for the middle price in GE and shards for 25 gp each.

    5) 927 Karamthulhu Overlord = 927 empty fishbowls, 927 blue charms and 133,488 shards.

    (Buying empty fishbowls 180 gp each)
    180 * 927 => 166,860

    133488 * 0.7 => 93441.6
    133488 * 0.3 => 40046.4
    40046.4 * 25 => 1001160
    166860 + 1001160 => 1,168,020 gp

    I will get 40,047 shards back and have an estimated cost of 1,168,020 gp

    1168020 / 472794 => 2.47046282313227

    2.47 gp loss per pouch, selling to the ogre for 70% of the shards back, buying empty fishbowls for middle in GE and shards 25 gp each.




    6) 1,679 Stranger Plants = 1,679 bagged plants 1, 1,679 crimson charms and 214,912 shards.

    (Buying bagged plant 1 from the gardener in fally park for 1k each)

    3290840 / 472794 => 6.96040981907554


    1679 * 1000 => 1,679,000 gp

    214912 * 0.7 => 150438.4
    214912 * 0.3 => 64473.6
    64473.6 * 25 => 1611840
    1679000 + 1611840 => 3,290,840 gp

    I will get 150,438 shards back and have an estimated loss of 3,290,840 gp

    3290840 / 472794 => 6.96040981907554

    6.96 gp loss per pouch, buying bagged plants 1 for 1k each at fally park and shards 25 each.


    Conclusion:

    These costs will nto be accurate as the Grand exchange prices are changing constantly. Remember they are EXAMPLES. It is also possible to buy shards 22-23 gp each from forums or form buying pouches on the GE and selling to the ogre.

    All costs are per 1 exp

    Bunyip = 16.11 gp
    Fruit bat = 8.75 gp

    Barker toads = 6.33 gp
    Mithril Minotaur = 4.00 gp
    Karamthulhu Overlord = 2.47 gp

    Stranger Plants = 6.69 gp

    As a result i do not loot green charms. Best of luck on your summoning adventure!

    SECTION 2
    =========

    During these sections please carefully read and keep going back to post 1.4 in the first section!
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    2.0 FAQ's
    ===========

    Q: I feel you missed something from the guide, can you add this information?
    A: If I have missed something and you have correct facts then I will be more than happy to add it and give you credit, eh no one is perfect.

    Q: Can I add you in game?
    A: If I do not know you, then no. My friends list is getting on full and if you have something to ask you can contact me in PM on these boards, post a comment or message me in swiftIRC (`Will`)

    Q: Why are your calculations all in crimsons?
    A: Crimsons are the most "efficient" way of training. My calculations will not be 100% correct, of course since no monster drops 100% crimsons!


    Thank you for reading this guide! If you have any concerns i will be more than happy to answer you. All feedback is appriciated, whether it is good or bad. Happy skilling!
  • 8 Comments sorted by
  • The Cyan text hurts mai eyes..
  • hurts mine to, but meh its a very nice guide guess i should go and train more summoning >.>
  • Not bad, but can u change the cyan color into any different color?

    Like the 2 ppl said above.. 'It hurts the eyes!' sad.gif
  • Great guide given that I'm doing slayer to 65 so I can get crimsons on Dusties- this has confirmed that I'm doing the right thing. Thanks for posting it smile.gif
  • no wonder summoning was so expensive..
    i should have sold the damn pouches to the ogre guy..
    oh well..doesn't make a difference now that i'm retired sad.gif
  • tis a great guide i will use it after i get 99 herblore and maybe 94 con smile.gif
  • Nice guide O_o. The kyatt method looks way better than brimhaven house..I'll try it out next time i'm summoning!
  • I looked at this guide and read it and wondered wtf?? Paddy wrote this???? and I looked at the top and realized it wasn't you -.-. Oh well still a good guide however I've never summoned enough at one time to use the Kyatt method yet. The "Charm efficiency" part of the guide confuses the hell out of me but then again it's 1:30am so I'll look at it again tomorrow.
  • Thank you! Your guide has been approved and has been moved to the Guides forum.

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