Law runecrafting with balloons.
  • Vote Up0Vote Down RamboRambo
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    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj8y4FzAGIUBasically a really cool way to do runecrafting. Credit for this idea goes to mastermule52 who posted about how fast and steady it was.Basically you run to the balloon outside of Castle Wars, take the balloon to Entrana, craft, and then use duel ring teleport back to Castle Wars.At full speed a trip takes 90 seconds to complete. If you are 75+ runecrafting this means you can pump out ~50 laws in 90 seconds (or 1.8 laws per second). So basically in 1 hour you can complete 2k law runes. Fun fun!(You have to complete the quest "Enlightened Journey" and have 50 firemaking to unlock the path between Castle Wars and Entrana.)Shout out to Paddy!
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  • Vote Up0Vote Down [zerotense]
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    thats how i always train rc 0.o how come u just found it out now 0.o

    well unless i'm to lazy to cut some logs for it XD

    -jinxed-
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    well unless i'm to lazy to cut some logs for it XD


    Ehm buy them on the GE wink.gif

    And yea I just found out that its better to do than deaths/bloods to 91... so yea... revelation.
  • Vote Up0Vote Down [chemicalmum]
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    Thanks Dave - I am gonna give this one a go, any variety with RC'ing is welcome.

    This should maybe be in the guides section?
  • Vote Up0Vote Down [zerotense]
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    QUOTE (Wahrheit87 @ May 25 2008, 03:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Ehm buy them on the GE wink.gif


    i'm a scroogie sad.gif

    -jinxed-
  • Vote Up0Vote Down [Paddy G 666]
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    David!

    <3

    Cheers this is great! smile.gif

    ++ P M G. Im E-Famous wink.gif
  • Vote Up0Vote Down [michaeltnias]
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    QUOTE (Wahrheit87 @ May 25 2008, 02:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    And yea I just found out that its better to do than deaths/bloods to 91... so yea... revelation.


    Why is it better than bloods to level to 91???
    Perhaps it was just an off the cuff comment, and I hope not to offend.... but I disagree :-)

    Crafting laws from 75 to 91 will only be an extra 2.6Million and once you start double nats that's only 2.6 hours work. You'll spend an extra 24 full hours of game play to do this. Which is double nat time is 21.4Million gp you will have squandered :-O

    My conclusion with rc is that the most cost effective way in the long term to 91 is ZMI alter, if you need money for short term goals, bloods are a good compromise. I am going blood all the way as my mind cannot cope without the cash short term reward that bloods give :-)

    Please find below my workings for your scrutiny....

    Current Market Price and XP gained per rune.
    -----------------------------------------------------
    Blood 287, xp 10.5
    Death 303, xp 10
    Law 342, xp 9.5

    XP required 75 to 91
    -------------------------
    I am basing my calculations on someone starting at 75 aiming for 91.
    Lvl 75 is 1,210,421, lvl 91 is 5,902,831 so total xp required to get to 91 is 4,692,410

    Runes required 75 to 91
    ---------------------------
    So for laws this is: 493,938 runes crafted
    Blood is: 446,897 runes crafted.

    This is an extra 47,041 runes if you craft laws to 91!

    Money gained by crafting Law 75 to 91
    ---------------------------------------------
    If you craft 2k per hour that is a whole extra 24 hours of crafting.
    (2k rate is what was specified by balloon ride and is also abt what i do in the abyss too)

    Let's see how much "extra" money that is: (Current Market Price * 47,041)
    Laws 16,088,022gp, Blood 13,500,767gp. The difference is 2,587,255gp.

    Long term
    ------------
    Once you get to double nats you'll be earning abt 1mill per hour, so thats 2.6hours work!

    Conclusion (again)
    ----------------------
    Crafting laws from 75 to 91 will only be an extra 2.6Million and once you start double nats that's only 2.6 hours work. You'll spend an extra 24 full hours of game play to do this. Which is double nat time is 21.4Million gp you will have squandered :-O

    My conclusion with rc is that the most cost effective way in the long term to 91 is ZMI alter, if you need money for short term goals, bloods are a good compromise. I am going blood all the way as my mind cannot cope without the cash short term reward that bloods give :-)
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    I got no idea honestly, but I have been rcing more using the balloons just because they are a lot easier to do mindlessly for me. So if I didn't use the balloons I probably wouldn't be rcing as much... as for an actual response to your post well... this is what I read. :/

    QUOTE (mastermule52)
    54-91: laws via balloons. Start at cw, withdraw 1 normal log (have them stockpiled before you start), and draw your ess (bring a super energy (3) if your energy is below 50%). Run north to the balloon by castle wars, take it enterna. Run to law alter. Teleport back to castle wars.

    Forget all the other runes, they're a waste of time - the thing about using the balloons is
    1) It is always the same amount of time. you don't have to wait because you keep failing a trip.
    2) Never worry about reverants or abyssals attacking you. This also means less time wasted eating food to restore hitpoints.
    3) It's faster than the abyss (by about 3-4 seconds a trip! which is a lot!)
    4) You can keep your prayer running the entire time (stat-restore prayer restores energy, so I'm told)
    5) You can't use a pickaxe or hatchet in the abyss because weapons aren't allowed on enterna. This only slows you down even more. avoid that with balloons.

    balloons > abyss
  • Vote Up0Vote Down [michaeltnias]
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    I looked up mastermule52's stats and he hasn't trained summoning. This is an extra 7 runes per trip he is missing out on by not using the abyss!! This is huge! He's not looking at the bigger picture.

    I'm glad you've found a way to train rc though!! It's totally dull in the abyss - no doubt!
  • Vote Up0Vote Down [chemicalmum]
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    Not only is Mule super bright but:

    [23:01:27] <RuneScript> *** [ MASTERMULE52 ]: [runecraft] lvl: 99 | exp: 24,849,105 (190% of 99) | rank: 30

    He was in the to 10 as I remember for a while. He has not been playing for a while so will not have trained summoning you are right but when the Mule speaks we listen.

    I know when he reads this he will be not only interested but probably also do some research on it because he is like that. Oh and he always looks at the bigger picture. You may well be right btw. As I don't rc unless I have to I have no idea.

    <3 teh mule
  • Vote Up0Vote Down [Jaketylert]
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    Graahks > Balloons.

    I am working on 91 RuneCraft with a Graahk familiar. If I go at full attention, I can get 3k nats per hour, and Im not even 75 RC yet.

    Just my thoughts.
  • Vote Up0Vote Down [cubs17fan17]
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    QUOTE (michaeltnias @ May 26 2008, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I looked up mastermule52's stats and he hasn't trained summoning. This is an extra 7 runes per trip he is missing out on by not using the abyss!! This is huge! He's not looking at the bigger picture.

    I'm glad you've found a way to train rc though!! It's totally dull in the abyss - no doubt!

    I've seen people rc with these and my comment is... it slows them down! It takes them forever to get the ess from their fimilar. Balloons is the way to go for laws and abyss fimilars are a waste of time IMO. I think terrobird would be a much more useful fimilar while going through the abyss.

    QUOTE (Jaketylert @ Jun 6 2008, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I am working on 91 RuneCraft with a Graahk familiar. If I go at full attention, I can get 3k nats per hour, and Im not even 75 RC yet.

    I'd like to see that tbh because I can't even craft 3k ess at 97 rc and I'm not that slow anymore...
  • Vote Up0Vote Down [griffin the]
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    I was really skeptical of this method, until I actually tried it. It actually is a very consistent way of RCing, and in my opinon, a lot easier than the abyss. (Trucking into the middle of the abyss can be quite annoying at times.)
  • Vote Up0Vote Down [m2m4m6m8]
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    So wait... you can make laws from balloons? The balloon price is going to skyrocket tbh! And with written recommendations:

    QUOTE
    I was really skeptical of this method, until I actually tried it. It actually is a very consistent way of RCing, and in my opinon, a lot easier than the abyss. (Trucking into the middle of the abyss can be quite annoying at times.)


    QUOTE
    Balloons is the way to go for laws and abyss fimilars are a waste of time IMO.



    This is a major breakthrough! Balloons into roons! Who would have thought it possible..


    P.s. I have used this rcing method, but only when close to leveling tongue.gif
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